<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: It should be easy for a webdesigner taking rudementary webdesign classes, right?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/</link>
	<description></description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3</generator>
		<item>
		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13321</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13321</guid>
		<description>Hayley, your comments ended up being sent to Akismet, but I went ahead and approved both of them and deleted the extra.

 I'd also have other people who use Akismet to double check for your comments too, because chances are you're going straight into the spam box :'(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hayley, your comments ended up being sent to Akismet, but I went ahead and approved both of them and deleted the extra.</p>
<p> I&#8217;d also have other people who use Akismet to double check for your comments too, because chances are you&#8217;re going straight into the spam box :&#8217;(</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Hayley</title>
		<link>http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13317</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13317</guid>
		<description>Oops, sorry, the page was hanging...please delete this and one of them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, sorry, the page was hanging&#8230;please delete this and one of them!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Hayley</title>
		<link>http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13316</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13316</guid>
		<description>At least image maps are now doable with CSS and therefore accessible. Although I suspect if you do that combined with the image replacement technique that I've forgotten the acronym for then he may downgrade you because he won't understand the code.

When I started my Events Management course at university, I was supposed to be doing Joint Honours Events with Media Applications. I took one look at the course content for the web design modules and changed to Single Honours. Whilst they'd got some idea of accessibility (text resizing and not using tables with some attempt at semantic coding), it was at least 3 years out of date (now 4 and it's yet to be updated), and they were absolutely obsessed with using Flash including for navigation, headers and every single image.

On the plus side, I may be doing a one-off lecture (with the possibility of more for interested people) for my fellow Events students on basic web design. Although since this is aimed at people who think &lt;a href="http://student-events-conference.co.uk/"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is a high quality website, I'm not very hopeful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least image maps are now doable with CSS and therefore accessible. Although I suspect if you do that combined with the image replacement technique that I&#8217;ve forgotten the acronym for then he may downgrade you because he won&#8217;t understand the code.</p>
<p>When I started my Events Management course at university, I was supposed to be doing Joint Honours Events with Media Applications. I took one look at the course content for the web design modules and changed to Single Honours. Whilst they&#8217;d got some idea of accessibility (text resizing and not using tables with some attempt at semantic coding), it was at least 3 years out of date (now 4 and it&#8217;s yet to be updated), and they were absolutely obsessed with using Flash including for navigation, headers and every single image.</p>
<p>On the plus side, I may be doing a one-off lecture (with the possibility of more for interested people) for my fellow Events students on basic web design. Although since this is aimed at people who think <a href="http://student-events-conference.co.uk/">this</a> is a high quality website, I&#8217;m not very hopeful.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Hayley</title>
		<link>http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13315</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13315</guid>
		<description>At least image maps are now doable with CSS and therefore accessible. Although I suspect if you do that combined with the image replacement technique that I've forgotten the acronym for then he may downgrade you because he won't understand the code.

When I started my Events Management course at university, I was supposed to be doing Joint Honours Events with Media Applications. I took one look at the course content for the web design modules and changed to Single Honours. Whilst they'd got some idea of accessibility (text resizing and not using tables with some attempt at semantic coding), it was at least 3 years out of date (now 4 and it's yet to be updated), and they were absolutely obsessed with using Flash including for navigation, headers and every single image.

On the plus side, I'll may be doing a one-off lecture (with the possibility of more for interested people) for my fellow Events students on basic web design. Although since this is aimed at people who think &lt;a href="http://student-events-conference.co.uk/"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is a high quality website, I'm not very hopeful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least image maps are now doable with CSS and therefore accessible. Although I suspect if you do that combined with the image replacement technique that I&#8217;ve forgotten the acronym for then he may downgrade you because he won&#8217;t understand the code.</p>
<p>When I started my Events Management course at university, I was supposed to be doing Joint Honours Events with Media Applications. I took one look at the course content for the web design modules and changed to Single Honours. Whilst they&#8217;d got some idea of accessibility (text resizing and not using tables with some attempt at semantic coding), it was at least 3 years out of date (now 4 and it&#8217;s yet to be updated), and they were absolutely obsessed with using Flash including for navigation, headers and every single image.</p>
<p>On the plus side, I&#8217;ll may be doing a one-off lecture (with the possibility of more for interested people) for my fellow Events students on basic web design. Although since this is aimed at people who think <a href="http://student-events-conference.co.uk/">this</a> is a high quality website, I&#8217;m not very hopeful.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alex Loony</title>
		<link>http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13314</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Loony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13314</guid>
		<description>Wow... Amazing. You know, I wanned to study webdesigning... Now I think I don't want to study it ;D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; Amazing. You know, I wanned to study webdesigning&#8230; Now I think I don&#8217;t want to study it ;D</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13306</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13306</guid>
		<description>Kimmie,

What you fail to realize since I don't explicitly mention this, is that I already work for a webdesign firm. My employers (and myself) realize that a degree isn't always everything. I got the job there because of my will to learn on my own over the years, and because of the extensive knowledge I had compared to someone learning in a college major/minor.

What's up your ass anyway? I pay for this class, so like Jem said, I'm free to bitch about whatever the fuck I want to. If I think the teacher is a fucking moron, I'll rant on that. If I think the class is a fucking joke, I'm going to rant on that. I'm paying for a class I can't get out of (or take any other way) so of course I'm going to suck it up (which if you read in my post, I said essentially said I'm sucking it up--not in the same words) regardless. However, it doesn't mean that I'm going to sit back and not complain about it.

And about your "advice" to take him out to lunch. You're kidding, right? I don't want to know my webdesign professor at all. I could care less about him. It's a measly online course I'm taking, and once it's over, it's over. I've already emailed him and bitched to him about the course needing to be updated, and the fact that our assignments aren't teaching anything at all for the fact that they're nearly completed by him, aside from adding a few characters or removing something.

Now, if he was anything like my graphic design teacher, perhaps I'd agree with that. It'd be worth it because unlike *some* teachers, he is a freelancer web designer/programmer. He knows the latest and greatest and understands my rants in class about the webdesign class. This other teacher is some old fart who would rather play around with QBASIC.

My reasoning for getting a degree, is simply because for some of the jobs I want to have, it's required. I have the experience, but trust me when I say that it doesn't mean shit to some companies. They still want that degree no matter what. Now THAT is why I'm going back to school. It's not because I want a degree. I don't want to spend $30,000+ on an education where I know almost 75% of the material being taught.

BTW, why would I switch to another department? It seems a bit odd to tell someone who wants that webdesign assocaites to switch. I mean, would it make sense for me to get an associates or bachelors in a field I don't want to work in? Now, if you must know, I AM going for an associates in webdesign and a bachelors in programming. So essentially that would work out, but the programmer degree is a lot more updated, sans the few early courses.

Either way, your advice doesn't really apply to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimmie,</p>
<p>What you fail to realize since I don&#8217;t explicitly mention this, is that I already work for a webdesign firm. My employers (and myself) realize that a degree isn&#8217;t always everything. I got the job there because of my will to learn on my own over the years, and because of the extensive knowledge I had compared to someone learning in a college major/minor.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s up your ass anyway? I pay for this class, so like Jem said, I&#8217;m free to bitch about whatever the fuck I want to. If I think the teacher is a fucking moron, I&#8217;ll rant on that. If I think the class is a fucking joke, I&#8217;m going to rant on that. I&#8217;m paying for a class I can&#8217;t get out of (or take any other way) so of course I&#8217;m going to suck it up (which if you read in my post, I said essentially said I&#8217;m sucking it up&#8211;not in the same words) regardless. However, it doesn&#8217;t mean that I&#8217;m going to sit back and not complain about it.</p>
<p>And about your &#8220;advice&#8221; to take him out to lunch. You&#8217;re kidding, right? I don&#8217;t want to know my webdesign professor at all. I could care less about him. It&#8217;s a measly online course I&#8217;m taking, and once it&#8217;s over, it&#8217;s over. I&#8217;ve already emailed him and bitched to him about the course needing to be updated, and the fact that our assignments aren&#8217;t teaching anything at all for the fact that they&#8217;re nearly completed by him, aside from adding a few characters or removing something.</p>
<p>Now, if he was anything like my graphic design teacher, perhaps I&#8217;d agree with that. It&#8217;d be worth it because unlike *some* teachers, he is a freelancer web designer/programmer. He knows the latest and greatest and understands my rants in class about the webdesign class. This other teacher is some old fart who would rather play around with QBASIC.</p>
<p>My reasoning for getting a degree, is simply because for some of the jobs I want to have, it&#8217;s required. I have the experience, but trust me when I say that it doesn&#8217;t mean shit to some companies. They still want that degree no matter what. Now THAT is why I&#8217;m going back to school. It&#8217;s not because I want a degree. I don&#8217;t want to spend $30,000+ on an education where I know almost 75% of the material being taught.</p>
<p>BTW, why would I switch to another department? It seems a bit odd to tell someone who wants that webdesign assocaites to switch. I mean, would it make sense for me to get an associates or bachelors in a field I don&#8217;t want to work in? Now, if you must know, I AM going for an associates in webdesign and a bachelors in programming. So essentially that would work out, but the programmer degree is a lot more updated, sans the few early courses.</p>
<p>Either way, your advice doesn&#8217;t really apply to me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kimmie</title>
		<link>http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13305</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13305</guid>
		<description>You seem to think that getting a degree means you are properly trained in a specific field.  However, some of your classmates and almost all employers realize something that you have yet to realize.  A degree only means that you are teachable.  It doesn't guarantee that you have any skills.  So, either suck it up and get your degree, or switch to another department where you will find the same things happening and learn to suck it up there.  The fact is, college education is what you want to make of it.  Take independent study courses.  Get to know your professors (take them to lunch, they love it).  I highly recommend getting an internship.  Do research.  Publish papers.  Go to conferences.  It's your choice if you want to do the bare minimum or really make something out of your education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to think that getting a degree means you are properly trained in a specific field.  However, some of your classmates and almost all employers realize something that you have yet to realize.  A degree only means that you are teachable.  It doesn&#8217;t guarantee that you have any skills.  So, either suck it up and get your degree, or switch to another department where you will find the same things happening and learn to suck it up there.  The fact is, college education is what you want to make of it.  Take independent study courses.  Get to know your professors (take them to lunch, they love it).  I highly recommend getting an internship.  Do research.  Publish papers.  Go to conferences.  It&#8217;s your choice if you want to do the bare minimum or really make something out of your education.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Manda</title>
		<link>http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13284</link>
		<dc:creator>Manda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13284</guid>
		<description>Like Jenny said, the only thing worth it is the degree. Wow, his website is pure nasty ;_; And.. why tables? Do people even use tables anymore ;_;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Jenny said, the only thing worth it is the degree. Wow, his website is pure nasty ;_; And.. why tables? Do people even use tables anymore ;_;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13278</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13278</guid>
		<description>Well, you gotta remember you prolly know things he doesn't but the fact that this is what they demand of you is SO not worth your money, but I guess it's a price for having that piece of paper in your hand when you go for a job in the field you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you gotta remember you prolly know things he doesn&#8217;t but the fact that this is what they demand of you is SO not worth your money, but I guess it&#8217;s a price for having that piece of paper in your hand when you go for a job in the field you want.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13274</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.atourworst.org/2007/11/09/it-should-be-easy-for-a-webdesigner-taking-rudementary-webdesign-classes-right/#comment-13274</guid>
		<description>My eyes! That website is really not good. I am as surprised as you why he is a web design teacher but there you go. I took a web design course in college and it was very similar to this except we were aloud to do the project on whatever we wanted... As long as we followed the required elements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My eyes! That website is really not good. I am as surprised as you why he is a web design teacher but there you go. I took a web design course in college and it was very similar to this except we were aloud to do the project on whatever we wanted&#8230; As long as we followed the required elements.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
